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Evil is the IC version of trolling. Best way to think about it.

Do what you want. Act on every base impulse within your heart...like the urge to slaughter every living thing in sight. Or if you're the more lawful and less chaotic type, then simply strive to bring order to your surroundings, even if you have to beat the crap out of it.

Even if heroes rise up to challenge you, you can still get satisfaction from knowing that it was all for the lulz.

Evil is the IC version of trolling. Best way to think about it.

Do what you want. Act on every base impulse within your heart...like the urge to slaughter every living thing in sight. Or if you're the more lawful and less chaotic type, then simply strive to bring order to your surroundings, even if you have to beat the crap out of it.

Even if heroes rise up to challenge you, you can still get satisfaction from knowing that it was all for the lulz.

Nothing personal, but this is why people generally don't want to be around "evil rpers".

Wouldn't the official word for it be "antagonist"? What would an antagonist be if they did not go around, well...antagonizing?

They're supposed to be around to throw a wrench in your plans, or just stir up trouble. A good story always has some sort of evil to fight or overcome.

04/22/2011 01:54 PMPosted by Tadkins

Even if heroes rise up to challenge you, you can still get satisfaction from knowing that it was all for the lulz.

This is more the thinking of chaotic evil. Which I don't really recommend. Chaotic evil is about mindless havoc and causing trouble without a cause a lot of times.

Neutral Evil, and Lawful Evil, or True Evil (Which I didn't list in the alignments because it's more complex than the other three), are much easier to start out with, they've got a better cause and can generally have more standing than 'I did it for the lulz'.

04/22/2011 02:02 PMPosted by Madelynne

A good story rarely has a villain that is doing something "for the lulz". A troll is more like being an ass character, not an evil one.

Perhaps the word troll was the wrong one. What I meant to say that evil is all about doing what you want, without a care about anyone else. Everyone else is one of two things; tools to be used, or opposition to be crushed.

04/22/2011 02:02 PMPosted by Dalavesta

Even if heroes rise up to challenge you, you can still get satisfaction from knowing that it was all for the lulz.

This is more the thinking of chaotic evil. Which I don't really recommend. Chaotic evil is about mindless havoc and causing trouble without a cause a lot of times.

Neutral Evil, and Lawful Evil, or True Evil (Which I didn't list in the alignments because it's more complex than the other three), are much easier to start out with, they've got a better cause and can generally have more standing than 'I did it for the lulz'.

Chaotic Evil is a legitimate form of evil. Some of the most effective villainous figures were Chaotic Evil. Jason Voorhees and the Joker, to name a couple.

When I say "I did it for the lulz", I meant that as more of a general, relatable term from an IC standpoint. Obviously, a character isn't going to say that exact thing in a RP situation.

04/22/2011 02:07 PMPosted by Tadkins

Chaotic Evil is a legitimate form of evil. Some of the most effective villainous figures were Chaotic Evil. Jason Voorhees and the Joker, to name a couple.

I'm not saying it's not a form of evil, I'm saying it's hard to pull off correctly :)

04/22/2011 02:09 PMPosted by Dalavesta

Chaotic Evil is a legitimate form of evil. Some of the most effective villainous figures were Chaotic Evil. Jason Voorhees and the Joker, to name a couple.

I'm not saying it's not a form of evil, I'm saying it's hard to pull off correctly :)

True, but it's so fun and satisfying if pulled off successfully. Far less paperwork than what the Lawful Evil types have to go through.

04/22/2011 02:10 PMPosted by Tadkins

True, but it's so fun and satisfying if pulled off successfully. Far less paperwork than what the Lawful Evil types have to go through.

This is why NE is generally the alignment most people should roll for starting off on an evil toon. :)

Even folks like 'Joker' and other examples you pointed out still have their reasons. They may be flawed reasons, they may be bad reasons, but it's not all 'just for the lulz' it is to cause chaos true, but they have their own reasoning.

04/22/2011 02:14 PMPosted by Dalavesta

True, but it's so fun and satisfying if pulled off successfully. Far less paperwork than what the Lawful Evil types have to go through.

This is why NE is generally the alignment most people should roll for starting off on an evil toon. :)

Even folks like 'Joker' and other examples you pointed out still have their reasons. They may be flawed reasons, they may be bad reasons, but it's not all 'just for the lulz' it is to cause chaos true, but they have their own reasoning.

An evil character can't do that simply because they enjoy seeing cities in rubble, peasants suffering, and heroes frustrated?

04/22/2011 02:17 PMPosted by Tadkins

An evil character can't do that simply because they enjoy seeing cities in rubble, peasants suffering, and heroes frustrated?

At the end of the day something drives them to do it, proving a point, some form of mental disorder, revenge, whatever it may be. There is still a reason behind it.

If they're causing chaotic actions because they like seeing people hurt, they're a sadistic and vile person. Chaotic yes, but still the entire goal for them is to cause pain :)

I understand what you guys are saying. "For the lulz" may have been too simplistic. It is true that a good, interesting villain needs a story and reasoning behind what they do. Even if their actions tend to produce pure, mindless chaos.

I also understand that characters like that are hard to RP with effectively. When I did so with Tadkins, it was rarely with her own faction. That's why she loves causing havoc within enemy cities; it's the only true way to effectively portray her character, I think.

04/22/2011 02:22 PMPosted by Tadkins

I understand what you guys are saying. "For the lulz" may have been too simplistic. It is true that a good, interesting villain needs a story and reasoning behind what they do. Even if their actions tend to produce pure, mindless chaos.

*Thumbs up*

I understand what you guys are saying. "For the lulz" may have been too simplistic. It is true that a good, interesting villain needs a story and reasoning behind what they do. Even if their actions tend to produce pure, mindless chaos.

*Thumbs up*

Thanks.

With that said, I've been finding simple plundering and pillaging to be an effective and fun form of evil lately. While I do it with this tauren, I intend for it to play more of a part in my character's story when she becomes a goblin. The way I see it, that is what you get when you combine chaos and evil with a goblin's natural greed.

She'll be particularly fond of jewelry and gems, because they are the only things she can see perfectly clearly. Tadkins is colorblind to everything else.

04/22/2011 02:32 PMPosted by Tadkins

She'll be particularly fond of jewelry and gems,

LIKE A DARGON!

No but seriously. Why don't we see more dragons hoarding treasure in WoW? I dun get it!