I believe Exarchs also qualify for Draenei Paladins.
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09/28/2011 07:24 PMPosted by RofaldoMountain Kings dual-wield.
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They're so epic they don't need weapons, they can become a shield themselves! That's no my point! XD
09/28/2011 07:25 PMPosted by EredisI believe Exarchs also qualify for Draenei Paladins.
Yea, that too!
Mostly just pointing out that for -most- races. The class 'paladin' does not reflect what they actually are, and in some cases how they even obtain their powers. Though the sources are similar they are not the same.
Edited by Dalavesta on 9/28/2011 7:27 PM PDT
:p Dwarves are actually the same as humans since they taught them it and joined the Order of the Silver Hand. It's also the reason they are the only races to share a paladin mount.
Exarch is just the Draenei word for Paladin. Like how Anchorite is Priest.
But yes, I agree on the Tauren Sunwalker thing. Blood Elf Paladins are still called Blood Knights, but I am not sure if they function the same as normal Paladins after the Sunwell was reignited.
But yes, I agree on the Tauren Sunwalker thing. Blood Elf Paladins are still called Blood Knights, but I am not sure if they function the same as normal Paladins after the Sunwell was reignited.
Edited by Looped on 9/28/2011 7:30 PM PDT
09/28/2011 07:28 PMPosted by Vicara:p Dwarves are actually the same as humans since they taught them it and joined the Order of the Silver Hand. It's also the reason they are the only races to share a paladin mount.
:( Paladins would be epic Mountain Kings...
09/28/2011 07:30 PMPosted by Dalavesta:p Dwarves are actually the same as humans since they taught them it and joined the Order of the Silver Hand. It's also the reason they are the only races to share a paladin mount.
:( Paladins would be epic Mountain Kings...
There is only one King, and he is under the Mountain.
09/28/2011 07:15 PMPosted by DalavestaDoes your paladin have faith in his cause/the job he's using the Light for?
Lets say somebody wanted someone killed. The Blood knight accepted the job. He went off to do the job and kill someone that he believed to be a criminal, who may or may not be one. Would he be able to use the light?
1: It's completly unreasonable to have control over what would be a very large army of undead creatures. On that sort of scale the only way I'd ever even think about doing something like this would be at a DMed event. That isn't to say it wouldn't be possible but corpses don't come from nowhere! You'd need to collect three hundred of them, and preform three hundred very complex rituals in order to raise and control them. Control being the important part. I would suggest a smaller army size similar to the mechanics of army of the dead, in which there are many but the magics sustaining their undeath fade out within seconds.
DK stepping in to say "ehhhh, not exactly."
As I've stated before in this thread, DK's know a bit more about raising the dead than the average adventurer - after all, we did it ourselves, so have have an 'in' of sorts.
Acherus in general is filled with unliving things. We sometimes make a joke of it. For the DK, death is cheap and not necessarily permanent. Abominations are just one big, happy family, geists do the scutwork and paperwork, and ghouls need to be kept in a pit and walked just like your Sharpei or otherwise they make a mess all over the flagstones.
Each DK has to learn how to raise the dead as part of their 'release' from the drudgery that is the Post-Chapel Training Program (PCTP for short). Sure, it isn't canon, but it's a fun way for us, at least, to explain why every DK can summon a ghoul, summon an 'army' of expendable meat, and why some do it better than others. 1st gens were well trained with it, even. Can they raise 300? Sure, it would just take time. A heck of a storyline could be made of people disappearing, and when the heroes finally get to the reveal - hey, it's a party! Everyone's here! Just not...breathing. And they look peaked. And they're missing organs.
Okay, ew.
Short version? Get DK's to do it. We're supposed to be addicted to inflicting pain, and there's little better on the emotional pain scale than raising your father/mother/sister/brother/child and siccing them on you for noms. Just make sure you trust the ones who are doing it, because a great many DK's aren't good at keeping secrets.
Like, at all.
09/28/2011 07:47 PMPosted by Rofaldohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVI7iX4N08s
I'm not at all surprised that you got that.
09/28/2011 07:47 PMPosted by OgratharLets say somebody wanted someone killed. The Blood knight accepted the job. He went off to do the job and kill someone that he believed to be a criminal, who may or may not be one. Would he be able to use the light?
This one is REALLY difficult to answer. Given the restoration of the Sunwell I don't see why they couldn't. They've shown to do bad deeds for personal gain and still retain the ability to use and abuse the light.
@Eredis
I don't have a problem with the mechanics as much as I have a problem with someone wanting to raise 300 undead to try and mob someone with. It seems like a go-to excuse a player would use in order to corpsewall any player and make himself unkillable.
It's possible, yes. It's just not really a nice thing to do, I don't find the actions terribly RP friendly. This is all opinions mind you.
I don't have a problem with the mechanics as much as I have a problem with someone wanting to raise 300 undead to try and mob someone with. It seems like a go-to excuse a player would use in order to corpsewall any player and make himself unkillable.
It's possible, yes. It's just not really a nice thing to do, I don't find the actions terribly RP friendly. This is all opinions mind you.
@Eredis
I don't have a problem with the mechanics as much as I have a problem with someone wanting to raise 300 undead to try and mob someone with. It seems like a go-to excuse a player would use in order to corpsewall any player and make himself unkillable.
It's possible, yes. It's just not really a nice thing to do, I don't find the actions terribly RP friendly. This is all opinions mind you.
I see it as perfectly acceptable - provided this is the reveal we're talking about. When the heroes overcome the wall of shambling dead, well, that's an accomplishment worth mentioning, I'd say! Plus it gives the creator time to make his monologue and hustle off to the escape capsule so he can twirl his mustache and plot another day.
Were it me, I would get a skosh more psychological and start trying to take - and raise - people close to our intrepid heroes, so they have that crippling moment of introspection before they have to slay those that are dear to them. Because that is deliciously evil!
At least I see it that way.
I do get what you're saying. I wouldn't want the corpsewall tactic to be in the basic playbook. It's strictly endgame in my eyes, a one-shot superweapon that people will be on the lookout for in the future. I'm just saying that it could be done, and I stress that if it were to be done, that it be done for all the right reasons.
I do get what you're saying. I wouldn't want the corpsewall tactic to be in the basic playbook. It's strictly endgame in my eyes, a one-shot superweapon that people will be on the lookout for in the future. I'm just saying that it could be done, and I stress that if it were to be done, that it be done for all the right reasons.
Exactly. This would be fine.
Just using 300 random corpses wouldn't be. It's powerplay, and powerplay has it's place when it comes to EvilRP, but it shouldn't be used all the time. I completely agree with you that it could be done. =p In my first post I even said it was possible.
Someone probably already asked this.
.. But is this a guide on ERP?
BRB changing thread title.
Exactly. This would be fine.
Just using 300 random corpses wouldn't be. It's powerplay, and powerplay has it's place when it comes to EvilRP, but it shouldn't be used all the time. I completely agree with you that it could be done. =p In my first post I even said it was possible.
Some of the corpses should be random. Start small. Plenty of homeless in Westfall that people wouldn't miss. Plenty of refugees in Shattrath, even to this day.
Maybe someone notices. Maybe someone finds a limb they shouldn't. Maybe someone makes too much noise. People start noticing.
At the same time, you're getting bold. You aren't getting caught, and you're getting good at this. But these weaklings are just that - weak! You need something with more strength. Something fitting for your power! Maybe something a little easier on the eyes.
So you start taking the working lads and lasses of Azeroth. A farmer here. A furrier there. Your minions do well to bring them to you, and they're even alive 18% of the time. But therein lies the problem - you need them alive 100% of the time so you can have a full and healthy stable of walking corpses!
Now people are suspicious. Questions are being raised, and words reach your ears. People want to stop you. How dare they?! Don't they see what you're trying to do? This is good work! It will save lives!
(well no it won't, but we're on a roll)
No, you need to show them. You need to put them in their place. They need to fear you, and recognize your power. And that is when you take an influential wife, or husband. A sister or brother. Kin, or close friends. Draw them into your web, and smite them. And when they enter your lair, the spider's lair, that is when you rise from your chair and shout:
"DEVOUR THEM, MY CHILDREN! THEY THOUGHT I WAS MAD, BUT WE SHALL SEE WHO LIVES IN THE END, AND WHO WILL RISE AGAIN IN MY SERVICE!"
And as they charge, and meet the heroes, that little voice in the back of your head says, "Y'know, you never did make them tougher."
And that's when you bolt.
Lets say somebody wanted someone killed. The Blood knight accepted the job. He went off to do the job and kill someone that he believed to be a criminal, who may or may not be one. Would he be able to use the light?
This one is REALLY difficult to answer. Given the restoration of the Sunwell I don't see why they couldn't. They've shown to do bad deeds for personal gain and still retain the ability to use and abuse the light.
Thats the impression I was under. Thank you for clearing it up for me. :)
When I decided to make a character on an rp realm I wanted a realm that had good to amazing rp and Moon Guard fit the bill. (Once you go away from Elwyn -.-;) I didn't put hours of thought into what I wanted from rp I just picked a character/name/and rolled with it. I started to develop her story before work and on my way home in the car. Evil rp came up several times in my mind the only issue is that being a Draenei priest she is very unlikely to be evil in a stereotypical sense. We all know that guy they're the evil villains in every Disney movie. Sometimes not as in your face as others but you know them right off the bat. Any Draenei, not just a priest, would have to get creative. There is a huge pitfall "eredar demons" that's the most obvious evil a Draenei could be but you cut yourself off from everyone. Not to mention it's difficult to do because of size/coloration/random extra body parts/etc. However you could go with more creative methods.
As for Casyel she has, like most Draenei, a philosophical understanding of the light. It's more classroom then religion. The Shadow cannot exist without light and light creates shadow subconsciously. (if the light had a conscious). Without light, shadow wouldn't exist and without shadow the light would be washed out and dull. They are not evil or good. For example Scarlets use light but they are evil. The Ebon Blade use shadow but they are fighting against evil.
Shadow is a safe place for Casyel. She was born on a small planet, Huij (we), that had very little sunlight and traveled in the black voids of space for the majority of her childhood. It's as much a home to her as the teachings of the Naaru. She is not opposed to the light. On the contrary she enjoys it and will always sit and listen to any of the Naaru. However, shadow helps her and provided her safety when her people were being massacred by Orcs. When demons led a rampage on cities and towns the shadow provided defense.
Being Shadow didn't spark the idea for being evil. Evil rp came into my mind for Casyel when I was developing her back story. While on Draenor she found love in a young Draenei who will remain unnamed. They decided to have a child since Draenor was such a peaceful place. (Draenei rarely have children usually only one because of the maturity rate and supposedly being immortal that they can't die from old age.) They had a young child by the name of Aelijaah. He was a lovely boy, full of energy. They were the perfect little family living in Terrokar. However perfection is an illusion. All hell broke loose on Draenor the Orcs killed so many including Casyel's husband and mother, Cay. Her father, Nemamiah, guided her and Aelijaah away from the Orc invasion. They ran and hid until the could make it with the other Draenei to the Exodar. They were traveling with three others on their way to join the larger group. They were doing well but the fates had one more tragedy to bestow upon Casyel. Her young son Aelijaah was picked out of the pack, while walking next to his grandfather, by a group of felhounds. Casyel dove towards him along with two others in their group but they were too late. More demons were closing in and it was all they could do to get away alive themselves. The vision of Aelijaah being ripped apart still haunts Casyel and drove a stake through her mind (metaphorically of course). She knew the small group meant well but they still held her back. She is dealing with not only the loss of three of her close family members but what she sees as betrayal to her son. She still fully trusts her father who had a number of injuries from the attack.
These memories haunt her. She tries her best to keep them down but when she is particularly moody and cannot stop dwelling on the thoughts her only comforts are shadow and helping at orphanages. I thought of putting in a progressive evil taking over her. Especially while traveling through Northrend being so close to Yogg's presence. I am of course playing with the idea. She would still hate demons of course, however something proclaiming itself as a god might have some level of persuasion over her.
Sorry it's such a long post but I needed to get the whole thing out to make the idea seem more logical for her as a character. What do you guys think? Plausible?
Also as a side note names came from common angel names: Casyel -- Cassiel Angel of Temperance. Aelijaah -- Elijah Angel of Innocence. Nemamiah Angel of Just Causes.
Her mother's name Cay was just something thought up.
As for Casyel she has, like most Draenei, a philosophical understanding of the light. It's more classroom then religion. The Shadow cannot exist without light and light creates shadow subconsciously. (if the light had a conscious). Without light, shadow wouldn't exist and without shadow the light would be washed out and dull. They are not evil or good. For example Scarlets use light but they are evil. The Ebon Blade use shadow but they are fighting against evil.
Shadow is a safe place for Casyel. She was born on a small planet, Huij (we), that had very little sunlight and traveled in the black voids of space for the majority of her childhood. It's as much a home to her as the teachings of the Naaru. She is not opposed to the light. On the contrary she enjoys it and will always sit and listen to any of the Naaru. However, shadow helps her and provided her safety when her people were being massacred by Orcs. When demons led a rampage on cities and towns the shadow provided defense.
Being Shadow didn't spark the idea for being evil. Evil rp came into my mind for Casyel when I was developing her back story. While on Draenor she found love in a young Draenei who will remain unnamed. They decided to have a child since Draenor was such a peaceful place. (Draenei rarely have children usually only one because of the maturity rate and supposedly being immortal that they can't die from old age.) They had a young child by the name of Aelijaah. He was a lovely boy, full of energy. They were the perfect little family living in Terrokar. However perfection is an illusion. All hell broke loose on Draenor the Orcs killed so many including Casyel's husband and mother, Cay. Her father, Nemamiah, guided her and Aelijaah away from the Orc invasion. They ran and hid until the could make it with the other Draenei to the Exodar. They were traveling with three others on their way to join the larger group. They were doing well but the fates had one more tragedy to bestow upon Casyel. Her young son Aelijaah was picked out of the pack, while walking next to his grandfather, by a group of felhounds. Casyel dove towards him along with two others in their group but they were too late. More demons were closing in and it was all they could do to get away alive themselves. The vision of Aelijaah being ripped apart still haunts Casyel and drove a stake through her mind (metaphorically of course). She knew the small group meant well but they still held her back. She is dealing with not only the loss of three of her close family members but what she sees as betrayal to her son. She still fully trusts her father who had a number of injuries from the attack.
These memories haunt her. She tries her best to keep them down but when she is particularly moody and cannot stop dwelling on the thoughts her only comforts are shadow and helping at orphanages. I thought of putting in a progressive evil taking over her. Especially while traveling through Northrend being so close to Yogg's presence. I am of course playing with the idea. She would still hate demons of course, however something proclaiming itself as a god might have some level of persuasion over her.
Sorry it's such a long post but I needed to get the whole thing out to make the idea seem more logical for her as a character. What do you guys think? Plausible?
Also as a side note names came from common angel names: Casyel -- Cassiel Angel of Temperance. Aelijaah -- Elijah Angel of Innocence. Nemamiah Angel of Just Causes.
Her mother's name Cay was just something thought up.
Edited by Casyel on 11/6/2011 6:29 PM PST
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