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Hmmm, very well I will try my best then to avoid "Purple Humaning", I should look for a night elf rp coach.

Also, they got some good phrases here on their official site.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/encyclopedia/361.xml

Anymore like this?

Wowwiki.com is a great place to look up lore, languages and race backstory.

No-no doesn't begin to describe it. If you're a night elf and you're still RPing in Stormwind, even now that the park is -gone-, you would have to deal with humans, human smells, the visitors to the city of other races (and smells thereof), the violence, lack of significant plant life, polluted waters, smell of magic, taste of magic, buzz of magic in the air...
Basically, you'd have to be significantly different from the Night elves as a whole to be a night elf staying in Stormwind of their own free will. And, as mentioned before, Night elves don't do 'different' so well.

Lorewise, anyway.
No problem at all to stop being a purple human, though! Simply go back to Darnassus and claim your mind was muddled by the human magics, so you didn't have the presence of mind to come back.

Some things I noticed is that Kaldorei also don't seem to like to be boxed in very much. Most of their buildings are open air, with few walls. Human buildings, which have very few openings, would likely make a Night Elf uncomfortable.

The lack of plant life would also be a major issue too. While Night Elves do have some stone paths, much of their city is open grass and wood. The cobblestone streets of Stormwind would likely irritate a Kaldorei who is used to walking on grass.

Yes, there is a great amount of useful lore information in this here thread. But as I understand it, every society is going to have individuals/groups whose lifestyle or evolved philosophy is going to cause a break with societal norms. Yes, the vast majority of the nameless collective is going to be easily summarized by historical events and the categorization of their order/group/caste, but to say that certain Kaldorei cannot be "humanized" or "secularized" is really unaccomodating to RPers who want to a play an elf off the beaten track....

Your point is well-made, but you fail to realize the biggest thing about night elven lore. I hate to draw this distinction all the time, but the Night elves rely on conformity in much the same manner as the Japanese. They are all very bound to tradition and following the set societal rules from day one of their incredibly long lives. 'Different' to them means wearing a different shirt color, not anything so horrifyingly, radically different as ignoring your sense of smell.

...That does bring up an interesting point, though. The Japanese, while based on so many strict rules (Even in language, which I remind everyone is NOT appropriate to use IC in any other manner than general structure), they also manage to lead the forefront of the word 'wierdness'.

Anyway, more to the point, I've heard the 'well maybe I'm different' excuse from purple humans more times than I can count. I have yet to see more Kaldorei that don't break societal norms than those that are 'different'.

I wanted to ask what are your intentions within your guild?

It would be very nice to see you guys operating side by side with the Mountain Guard, the First Regiment and the Gnome Mobile Force.

It would also be great to actually have a Kaldorei guild that respects and plays by the lore. I only had bad experiences with terrible Kaldorei rpers with the exception of this one person who roleplays within the Silver Shield, she seems to really know her stuff.


Also, how do I voice myself to make this thread a sticky? We -need- more -good- Kaldorei rpers.

I wanted to ask what are your intentions within your guild?

It would be very nice to see you guys operating side by side with the Mountain Guard, the First Regiment and the Gnome Mobile Force.

Our intentions are to crush any threat to our people and the route out traitors and betrayers to the Kaldorei.

It would also be great to actually have a Kaldorei guild that respects and plays by the lore. I only had bad experiences with terrible Kaldorei rpers with the exception of this one person who roleplays within the Silver Shield, she seems to really know her stuff.

We hold Kaldorei lore and RP close to the chest in The Moonblade. Very traditional here.

Also, how do I voice myself to make this thread a sticky? We -need- more -good- Kaldorei rpers.

You hit 'thumbs down', which will open a bar that says "report". Hit report and click 'other', then type in that you want the guide stickied.

Done and done. Best of luck to you.

This is bordering on elitism now.

Where I rp shouldnt matter if I can come up with a valid reason, such as diplomatic, working as a representative for the cenarion circle, learning new things to further your own means.

Not to mention social norms for an age old society changing with loss of immortality to roles traditionally gender specific open to others and how that has changed the society and is still changing it, to accepting back the highborne.
Or the fact that while some buildings are open air, some are towers with good fortifications as well as night elves can be found in silithus, going where they feel they are needed and hence away from the "comfort zone" of green.

This thread has gone from good guide to shutting down avenues to explore and making night elf rp by the book. Roleplaying is just as much about creativity as it is following guildlines. Flexibility is needed.

Extrapolation is all fine and dandy on some matters, but allow others to do it without doing it for them.

This is bordering on elitism now.

Where I rp shouldnt matter if I can come up with a valid reason, such as diplomatic, working as a representative for the cenarion circle, learning new things to further your own means.

Not to mention social norms for an age old society changing with loss of immortality to roles traditionally gender specific open to others and how that has changed the society and is still changing it, to accepting back the highborne.
Or the fact that while some buildings are open air, some are towers with good fortifications as well as night elves can be found in silithus, going where they feel they are needed and hence away from the "comfort zone" of green.

This thread has gone from good guide to shutting down avenues to explore and making night elf rp by the book. Roleplaying is just as much about creativity as it is following guildlines. Flexibility is needed.

See allow me to point this out: You are both correct. Both ideas are correct.

Let me expand this:

Night Elves are very particular and unique fantasy races. They have aversions to certain places. This does not mean they won't go or live in said places, it's that they are tradiotionalists who were isolated for most of their time. This thread is trying to make people understand this facet of Night Elf RPing and it's an important one. Many times I found Night Elves who fell into the "Purple Human" category because they spoke and acted as humans while living in Stormwind.


At the same time, like you said, there are reasons to why would a Night Elf live somewhere else or be somewhere else.

The "why" is the key here and needs to be clear for newbies to help them roleplay correctly.

I agree - both are correct. Im not disputing the things listed in the first few pages.

I just think it should be a resource and less preachy about things like if you are in stormwind you are just wrong smack. That is what I take affront to.

I dont endorse "purple humans" but I dont endorse what seems like bashing of anything beyond a certain box.

There is a guideline to follow but not a stay within this box or else mentality.

Edit: I realise I may have gotten upset especially considering one of the comments came from someone who admitted to ooc/ic intolerance and borderline griefing of night elven players that dont conform. I dont like bullies however you dress it up.

I agree - both are correct. Im not disputing the things listed in the first few pages.

I just think it should be a resource and less preachy about things like if you are in stormwind you are just wrong smack. That is what I take affront to.

I have never said that a Night Elf -shouldn't- be in Stormwind ever. I said that they'd be extremely uncomfortable there, in an unfamiliar place that places importance on things that Night Elves do not.

This holds true for any race. Humans should not feel 'at home' in Darnassus, Orcs shouldn't feel perfectly fine in Undercity.

But I'll agree with Rumze. This thread is bordering on elitism with its tone. The information is presented like "This is how you RP a Night Elf." instead of "Here's some general information about the history, culture, and views of Night elves."

If I was being elitist I wouldn't conceed points that I may have been wrong on. And if I was being elitist I wouldn't use quanitifiers in my original posts.

The guide is about Night Elf culture and tradition. These things aren't taking into account Night Elves who are going out of their way to learn about humans or to take part in their culture. This thread is about their general traditional culture so that people can read it and make decisions on their own about how they affect their character.

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Another bump for those wanting information about Night Elves.

Here's one.

Does the white night elf hair = old, or is that like the equivalent of blonde?

It is a common theme in fantasy for the shorter lived races (Generally the Human race as it traditionally has the shortest life span and the greatest capacity for learning) to make the biggest leaps in discoveries, technology, and magical advancements. Shorter life spans means less time to work with which leads to a more radical and passionate pursuits of knowledge and understanding. That and the older generation is recycled much quicker so things like 'traditions' and the 'old way' which may otherwise hinder growth are lost to the younger generations who would be the 'new thinkers.'