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11/27/2011 03:58 PMPosted by Kerielle

And once again, RPers are left without an RP home.

Some of the best people I role-play with right now, who I would honestly call some of the best Rpers(and players of this game) on this server, started off as "non-Rpers". Myself included only had experienced RP in the method of an occasional forum thread or a chat room before being introduced to WoW RP by someone who invited me to their server-transfering from a pvp to an RP realm.

Trying to push non-rpers off the server, who wish to respect and even occasionally contribute back to the community is worst than inviting trolls who break ToS or harass role-players with spam and internet meme macros.

I don't care how protective of the community or the server you feel entitled to. If that's the attitude you want to showcase as anyone apart of this server, then I'll drop 25$ to send you on your merry way myself.

Kerielle, it's not about what you enjoy doing in the game or percentages. It's not non-rpers that dilute or ruin RP servers. It's all about the attitude. It's about how people interact OOCly with each other and how they treat each other. We should welcome all people and treat them they way we would treat our friends. When we start asking people not to come, to tell them they don't belong because they don't RP, that's when the server starts going downhill. That's when it'll begin to die like the others.

I myself originally only came here because I've picked up the habit of using RP servers to roll Alliance, but I've grown to love this wonderful welcoming community. I even started to RP a few months ago and I must be doing okay as I haven't heard any complaints.

I do kinda feel bad for Kerielle - on an RP server there seems to be only one vocal RPer standing up trying to stop WrA going the same direction as all the other RP servers. And she is getting attacked on all sidees for not wanting to see WrA go down the same road.

I don't necessarily agree with her "passion" but I feel for her sentiment having left a RP server myself (not because of drama as people suggest) but simply because of a lack of RP.

I barely RP anymore due to the attitude of RPers in general. Just how snake like they are and how they cause infinitely more drama than any other form of player. I mostly log in these days just to raid and play with friends. I've likely role played maybe twice in 4 weeks?

Is your logic, Kerielle, that I should leave because I'm diluting your precious community? If anything, that 'warning' you post turns role players away. It's, in fact, doing more harm than good. And you don't even realise it.

Thanks for writing this, Belevow. <3
I love RP, but RPers on WrA cause me too much strife to enjoy it as much as I used to a few months ago. If there is a decline in role play on this server, I'm not blaming PvEers or PvPers. I'm blaming the role playing community by being overly rude to anyone who doesn't and to each other. I've seen more role players quit writing together because of others. It's not fair to blame everything on non-RPers.

I feel both what Kerielle and Belevow are saying and though I'm a little more inclined to support Belevow on this. And I'll mirror some of what the adorable Bessel said (much love gnomey sista *weird, complicated hand sign*)-

Roleplayers tend to be more likely to do themselves in.

WrA has a rep it seems as being the last bastion of non-ERP related roleplaying and anything to tarnish that just can't be allowed. But the reality of it, is that a lot of people want a nice server, where the general population isn't full of dbags, and where they can find a niche of their own. And whether you RP or not, Wyrmrest offers that. My only issues lie in that I have seen a Horde guild or two pop up lately that has actually said they don't support roleplaying.. which I really don't get and I think there's a chance that because of that, those guilds will never grow, or fail entirely.

Knowing when to draw the drama line is a big deal. And letting yourselves evolve into ridiculous, cliquish groups rather than being open to walk-ups, randoms, or involving other guilds into your plotlines will kill you off faster than the non-RPer standing there enjoying the good show while they wait for a queue of sorts. Don't let a few bad days or a few bad RP sessions get you down about whether or not it's available. There's plenty to be had if you step outside of your little group. I've had random WrA people pop up in my dungeons before and roleplayed with them and made new friends in the process. Might've been to the dismay of the non-RP server people but who cares? We did our roles effectively and had fun while we did it. Bottom line? There's room for BOTH.

We are an RP server. We are a PvE server.

We are Wyrmrest Accord.

11/27/2011 04:36 PMPosted by Ishae

We are an RP server. We are a PvE server.

Well... actually....

All the things people like about RP servers (they were listed in the OP) are because there are RPers here. Yes, there always will be, but that percentage will continue to drop. And that will make me a sad panda.

I don't understand why RP'ers are the only ones who can add, and I am quoting from OP, :

2. The community is FAR more friendly than that of other servers I've seen, even compared to other RP servers.
3. I enjoy literate, intelligent, like-minded people.

I don't want to be presumptuous, but I am literate and intelligent and I don't RP. I'm also quite friendly.

11/27/2011 04:48 PMPosted by Aumra

We are an RP server. We are a PvE server.

Well... actually....

Well actually that's correct.

Other than the fact that most PvP servers have nothing to do with PvP. There's more honest-to-god world PvP going on here than on most other servers, because most other servers are just some guy ganking you because you were in his archaeology spot. It's just not efficient, otherwise.

Most people sit in a city and BGQ to level. They then sit in a city and BGQ for honor. Or they dungeon Q to level. Or dungeon Q to get honor, so they can then get armor, to get more armor.

So, no. PvPers don't particularly care about PvEers on their server; PvEers the same for PvPers.

Actually, Wyrmrest is an RP server - it's right there when you log in.
PvE servers are the ones that say "normal" next to them.

11/27/2011 03:20 PMPosted by Belevow

I respect my literate brethren greatly. Even though I'm never IC on Belevow, I tend to talk in OOC brackets when I /s. I have TRP so that more of you know I'm OOC and can easily disregard me. I try not to run between or through RPers.

This. I love. Seriously. I'm a heavy rper, and obviously, I've started to have a couple pet peeves that are caused by non-rpers or rpers OOC. They are ooc chat in yells or says with out brackets, and people running on top of me. As long as we are considerate to each other, I'm perfectly fine with non rpers being here. I'll be nice to them, if they're nice to me. But I do expect non-rpers to know what they are getting into when they come to this server. They need to realize that we do have different rules then other servers, and they need to be respectful of said rules. So yeah, if they have your mindset? I welcome you with open arms.

edit: for spelling :P

Actually, Wyrmrest is an RP server - it's right there when you log in.
PvE servers are the ones that say "normal" next to them.

It's an RP-PvE server. I'm not sure how I can make this more clear to you.

It's an RP-PvE server. I'm not sure how I can make this more clear to you.

Really? Where does it say that?

Randomly... all rp all the time will burn people out as well. I've seen many, many, many people simply stop rping because they tried to be good and be a serious rper and NEVER be out of character. Then they stopped logging onto the characters because they didn't feel like rping but didn't want to be harassed for being out of character. Hell, I'm one of them. I've rped *so much* that I'm literally not interested in it at the moment. I just want to play the game for a while and enjoy it. So your rp population will fluxuate even if new people don't EVER join this server again.

I would be willing to wager that blizzard wants you to be able to enjoy all facets of the game, which is why questing, pvping, raiding is still available on rp servers. If they wanted it to be rp ONLY and that's all you do, they'd just give you the zones, and leave it at that. Okay a little bit of a ridiculous statement there but I hope you get my point. There are other things to do on an rp server, the reason why it's an rp server is because this is where people CAN go ic randomly and not have people go 'wtf are you crazy?' like they would on a normal server. But that doesn't mean that you can't be ooc, simply log on to pvp/pve, or even roll a toon on this server to enjoy the content without actually posting ic things.

There's also this. The people who are nice and friendly and welcoming? They're doing so out of character most of the time. The people who divebomb newbies and dump gold/bags on them RARELY do so ic. The cheerful chatter in tradechat is almost always ooc. It's our great ooc attitudes that make the server welcoming. And many of those wonderfully welcoming people who contribute to our server's reputation happen to not rp, like the original poster.

This post is babbling and I'm tired so it'll ramble more but... the reason why people are saying that post that set this off in question is elitist is because of both the phrasing and the poor placement of it everywhere. Perhaps if it was rephrased to where it wasn't set off to be so incredibly aggressively 'get away' right from the start, it wouldn't cause such a ruckus? I know you added a 'ie if you're here to try out rp' at the end of the post, but to be honest, the tone for the entire post is set in the very first line. It's like being a jerk to someone and adding 'no offense' at the end. It doesn't make it right, it only makes the person who was a jerk feel like they are safe from criticism about their actions.

/end babble.

edited because apparently the drove cussed and didnt' realize it.

N'yeah, awwwwroight. Makes sense t'me, chief.

I'd prolly get hella mad, me'self.

'cept there ain't folks here complainin' 'bout roleplay, none.

An' most folks that come'ere an' don't do th'deed, well. They ain't, neither.

S'what I was diggin' at, when I said people was swattin' at phantoms.