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As the title says, looking for a rated BG team. I have been pvping since the BG's began, (over 70K hk's on this toon) I consider myself more of a team concept player than a "sneaky off on his own" Rogue. I have always enjoyed the strategy part of running BG's than the mindless zerg we often see with pugs. I am pretty well geared (for only running pugs) Able to use vent, even have my own server if needed. If you are in need of a team player send me a whisper in game.

You are in the wrong spec (only subtlety is acceptable for PvP); and you don't even have 397 T1 daggers or the T1 legendary chain daggers. Also, you should be using the on-use PvP trinket instead of the proc one; or better yet, get vial of shadows.

Edit: Also, level 80 gems in your pants, and no weapon chain on your off-hand.

@ Elgunaz – LOL, because someone who wants to give RBG's a try HAS to be exceptionally geared. The OP never said they wanted to join YOUR RGB team. You can still be mediocre and have fun. Not saying that the OP is mediocre, but you gotta start somewhere. RBG's and random's are a different beast. Even if the OP was geared and spec'd as you mentioned, do you think a high level team would invite him without any RBG experience?

According to their profile the OP has never done Rated Arenas, so their grind for Conquest gear has probably taken a lot of time and effort on their part. Looks to me that they enjoy random BG's and they want a new challenge. Doesn't mean they are expecting a 2k+ rating.

PUG's can be annoying, because you often times run into elitists like yourself.

The OP is just trying to find like minded people, and you blast them for not being good enough.

They may have a more difficult time finding a group while not in the FOTM spec, but that doesn't mean that they can't participate at an entry level if they can find other people to group with at a similar skill/experience level.

Posts like yours only discourage "new" people from even trying.

If you were simply offering constructive criticism, you might want to find a more tactful way to do so.


( That being said, the level 80 gems in the leggings should really be upgraded. )

@ Elgunaz – LOL, because someone who wants to give RBG's a try HAS to be exceptionally geared. The OP never said they wanted to join YOUR RGB team. You can still be mediocre and have fun. Not saying that the OP is mediocre, but you gotta start somewhere. RBG's and random's are a different beast. Even if the OP was geared and spec'd as you mentioned, do you think a high level team would invite him without any RBG experience?

According to their profile the OP has never done Rated Arenas, so their grind for Conquest gear has probably taken a lot of time and effort on their part. Looks to me that they enjoy random BG's and they want a new challenge. Doesn't mean they are expecting a 2k+ rating.

PUG's can be annoying, because you often times run into elitists like yourself.

The OP is just trying to find like minded people, and you blast them for not being good enough.

They may have a more difficult time finding a group while not in the FOTM spec, but that doesn't mean that they can't participate at an entry level if they can find other people to group with at a similar skill/experience level.

Posts like yours only discourage "new" people from even trying.

If you were simply offering constructive criticism, you might want to find a more tactful way to do so.


( That being said, the level 80 gems in the leggings should really be upgraded. )

On the contrary, someone looking to start in any form of competitive content be it raiding or rated PvP should maximize their appeal by reducing any factor that can be used against them. Lack of rating is not a sin, but lack of knowledge, effort, and care for one's performance is indeed a bad thing.

To clarify:

1) OP lacks knowledge because he doesn't know what the current best spec for PvP (call it 'cookie-cutter' if you want, doesn't change the fact it's the best in all forms of PvP) is, and likely don't know how to play that spec.

2) He lacks effort because after almost 3 months of this season he has yet to accumulate 7800 conquest points needed in order to buy the 397 weapons, or just PUG a DS and get the 397 PvE daggers (which are superior to the PvP weapons anyway).

3) He basically don't care about your performance due to his clearly suboptimal gemming.

Elitist or not, who would look at a toon like this and go 'damn son, that's somebody I want to play with?'

Note that I did not bash his rating or his lack of arena experience, as these are irrelevant for entry level RBGs. However, the points I made are very relevant to any level of PvP.

Like I stated before, the OP never said they wanted to run RBG's with you. Who are you to tell them how to play?

Your suggestions were justified, but they came across as elitist. Like as if the OP has no business in RBG's at all.

Just because someone may choose to play the game differently doesn't mean they have to play it your way. They may not hit a 2k rating or even a 1k rating, but maybe they are just looking to have fun with like minded people.

It is a game after all.

Like I stated before, the OP never said they wanted to run RBG's with you. Who are you to tell them how to play?

Your suggestions were justified, but they came across as elitist. Like as if the OP has no business in RBG's at all.

Just because someone may choose to play the game differently doesn't mean they have to play it your way. They may not hit a 2k rating or even a 1k rating, but maybe they are just looking to have fun with like minded people.

It is a game after all.

I offered him the perspective of a RBG leader, and how typically an RBG leader think in terms of looking for recruits. I am at least a bit better than the thousands out there who require recruits to have a higher CR than themselves.

Also, looking for a good group requires thick skin. If one is too defensive about their playstyle and other shortcomings, it then they're likely not as a good team player as they think. A good team player isn't someone who upfront asks "look, I know I am in bad gear and I am in the wrong spec, but you gotta respect my decisions and know that I know what's best for the RBG. I have no rating or any other evidence to support this, but I know I am right".

Also, whether someone has any 'business' being in RBGs is debatable. Does a fresh 85 in quest greens belong in RBGs? Well if they find 9 people in similar situations and queue, nothing is stopping them. However, such a team will likely lose to every team they run into and will be very discouraging to all. Losing, I believe, is not fun for anyone especially when the experience gained from the loss does not count towards an eventual win (getting crushed and GY camped isn't really valuable experience). Hence people who aren't legitimately prepared to win in RBGs, should in fact be warned of the difficulty of jumping into them. Many people believe that RBGs are not the same as arena and more like organized PUGs, when in fact RBGs are usually more organized and require similar skills as arena than any BG situation as 90% of games are decided based on who can out-pressure the other team.

In my opinion, the OP is not adequately prepared.

I respect your opinion, and agree with your suggestions for improvement IF the OP is looking to be fairly competitive in RBG's.

Your post didn't come off as constructive though. To me it came off as "You are not good enough to do RBGs."

Obviously they won't get an invite to your groups. But someone may want them. They are geared decent enough for entry level RBG's.

Hopefully the OP will take your suggestions and work towards that, but don't discourage them from at least trying.

I respect your opinion, and agree with your suggestions for improvement IF the OP is looking to be fairly competitive in RBG's.

Your post didn't come off as constructive though. To me it came off as "You are not good enough to do RBGs."

Obviously they won't get an invite to your groups. But someone may want them. They are geared decent enough for entry level RBG's.

Hopefully the OP will take your suggestions and work towards that, but don't discourage them from at least trying.

Elgunaz's post had suggestions that would help the OP have a better chance at finding the RBG team he's looking for.

Having the needed enchants/gems/etc shows any RBG leader that the OP at least cares about bringing his best to any team he's part of. He doesn't need the best gear, but to find a team, he needs to show he's willing to put forth the effort.

I'm not saying he won't, as he may just not have known before. But I believe that's what Elgunaz was conveying.