Drow in Azeroth?

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55 Night Elf Hunter
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You've stated you've never RP'd on WoW before, so, of course, this kinda of idea sounds really fun and nifty.

You did this on an RP server that actually cared about lore, you would be getting a lot of tells stating that you can't play a Drow, or worse, end up on one of those bad roleplayer websites!
This is because us roleplayers take our lore seriously. Your Drow does not belong in WoW, your human sucked into her computer does not belong in WoW, your half demon night elf human grandma child does not belong in WoW.

You play a Night Elf, which is rich in thousands of years of lore. You can make an unique, creative character with the lore you are given. It shows your talent as a writer to use the lore given to you to make a character like that.


The night elves are an interesting race, but so are blood elves, trolls, goblins, et cetera. I know what I have experienced with my undead and night elf characters, but I do not know enough to feel comfortable with role-playing in World of Warcraft yet. I have been searching for a reliable source of Warcraft lore but with no luck so far.
90 Blood Elf Hunter
6420
01/08/2011 6:09 PMPosted by Vaellithorn
You've stated you've never RP'd on WoW before, so, of course, this kinda of idea sounds really fun and nifty.

You did this on an RP server that actually cared about lore, you would be getting a lot of tells stating that you can't play a Drow, or worse, end up on one of those bad roleplayer websites!
This is because us roleplayers take our lore seriously. Your Drow does not belong in WoW, your human sucked into her computer does not belong in WoW, your half demon night elf human grandma child does not belong in WoW.

You play a Night Elf, which is rich in thousands of years of lore. You can make an unique, creative character with the lore you are given. It shows your talent as a writer to use the lore given to you to make a character like that.


The night elves are an interesting race, but so are blood elves, trolls, goblins, et cetera. I know what I have experienced with my undead and night elf characters, but I do not know enough to feel comfortable with role-playing in World of Warcraft yet. I have been searching for a reliable source of Warcraft lore but with no luck so far.


Start off vague with your character and work from there.

Also, http://www.wowpedia.org
83 Human Mage
4730
01/08/2011 6:10 PMPosted by Lanuria


Also, http://www.wowpedia.org

This x9000 ^^
55 Night Elf Hunter
290
Start off vague with your character and work from there.

Also, http://www.wowpedia.org


I'm a little more obsessive than that. I want to be able to give my character a past that does not contradict the history of the Warcraft universe and/or a specific area in Azeroth. And I will start with wowpedia, but I will continue my search for a book or any source that not anyone can edit.
83 Human Mage
4730
01/08/2011 6:16 PMPosted by Vaellithorn
Start off vague with your character and work from there.

Also, http://www.wowpedia.org


I'm a little more obsessive than that. I want to be able to give my character a past that does not contradict the history of the Warcraft universe and/or a specific area in Azeroth. And I will start with wowpedia, but I will continue my search for a book or any source that not anyone can edit.

Warcraft 1, 2, and 3, various warcraft books, the warcraft rpg (some controversial information).
Wowpedia is pretty accurate.
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
3155
01/08/2011 6:16 PMPosted by Vaellithorn
Start off vague with your character and work from there.

Also, http://www.wowpedia.org


I'm a little more obsessive than that. I want to be able to give my character a past that does not contradict the history of the Warcraft universe and/or a specific area in Azeroth. And I will start with wowpedia, but I will continue my search for a book or any source that not anyone can edit.


wowpedia is usually always right about things, but I would suggest some of the warcrfat novels, the previous warcraft games, as well as the warcrfat rpg as well
90 Blood Elf Death Knight
8050
01/08/2011 5:47 PMPosted by Drewan
all in all, if you want to roleplay a Drow, do so in DDO not in WoW, or write a fanfic, or ...dont do. Crossovers in general, in most rp scenarios are bad /end thread


No one likes DDO anymore, I can tell.
Dungeons and Dragons Online is freakin' amazing.
Anyways, Drow is something from NeverWinter Nights, DDO, and many other fantasy games that are medival and involve magic and sorcery besides WoW.
It's like an arguement on 'If you can RP a Dragon or Not' thing. Which is possible, mind you beginners and mediocres.
Anyways *again*, don't screw around with it. You can or cannot play it, do so if you wish, done, bam, over with.
90 Human Warlock
3800
If you're going to do it, go ahead and do it. As you've probably guessed from the responses in this thread, however, not alot of people are going to support you.
45 Blood Elf Warrior
450
You refuse to take help from people, nuff said.
To offfer a fresh take on the situation, imagine if it was the other way around. Suppose someone decided to try and insert Tauren, Orcs, Night Elves, and Dwarves into something like...Oh I don't know, Star Wars.

Any Star Wars lore loyalist would scream foul just like any lore/rp loyalists in WoW would if they saw someone trying to rp as a Jedi/Sith. (And yes I've seen people try to do t before, I even saw someone try and start up a Star Wars/WoW crossover thread on these forums before too...Needless to say it didn't go well.)

For good reason, most roleplayers/lore enthusiasts like to keep their different worlds separated. It helps give uniqueness and flavor to the different time periods/social contexts/etc that are established and maintained in each world/story/universe. As much as you may like Drow, they just don't exist in WoW lore or Star Wars lore or anything aside from Forgotten Realms/D&D.

But that's the beauty of striving to become a good roleplayer. Given the vast amount of lore/character possibilities that Blizzard has provided already, coming up with a unique, lore-friendly, "Drow-esque" character is certainly possible without the need of a crossover story that would more than likely earn you a negative reputation.

86 Night Elf Death Knight
0
What I got from this thread, was that many role-players who I respected are incredulously close-minded. There is so much to say, I'm pretty damn sure I won't get through with it all in only one post.

*Hugely epic sigh*

Alright, let's do this thang.


First off, I see a lot of you trying to sound reasonable, understanding and generally like an all-round, not biased person. You have all failed.

I'm seeing three or four paragraphs of: "I know where you're coming from.." and it starts to sound like you're not biased... but then comes that one point where you pull out some tin foil and begin to make a hat.

I'm going to break down a few posts so that you all get a good idea:

To offfer a fresh take on the situation.
Suppose someone decided to try and insert Tauren, Orcs, Night Elves, and Dwarves into something like...Oh I don't know, Star Wars.


From the guy right above me. It sounds like he's going to be open minded and not throw the same rock that everyone else threw right?

As much as you may like Drow, they just don't exist in WoW lore or Star Wars lore or anything aside from Forgotten Realms/D&D.


Then that happens. This appears to be the brick wall you've all been hiding behind. Because it currently does not exist in the lore, the story writers don't seem to be adding it to the lore, it doesn't exist right? It never has, never will.


Wrong.


Role-playing, to me, means to create a world outside of our normal mundane lives and make the dream a reality for you and others, basically a dream that we all share with each other through collaboration, also known as a "Thread" on the forums and basic dialogue in the game world. Although it stops being a shared dream when you refuse to accept any other reality except your own. When you repeatedly refuse to even look at another person's attempt to co-create because it does not currently exist.

This is the world you have now shown me, a world where role-players are too, just as close-minded as regular players.

"It does not exist, therefore it never will and never can exist."

And these are the words you now tell me.

So I ask you. How did your world come about? How did this process of shared-dreaming, the alternate reality we all enjoy, come to be? If it never existed, how is it here, now, being enjoyed by millions? If the world all those years ago completely denied the idea that a planet could be inhabited by dragons, elves, orcs, gnomes and dwarves, along with the many other creatures on Azeroth, we wouldn't be here.

If the world so long ago denied any possibility of anything ever existing that did not currently exist, we would still be hitting animals over the head with blunt objects to get our daily supply of food. There would be no idea to ever take hold at anytime ever.

Because: "It does not exist, therefore it never will and never can exist."

Am I right?

So why would you, the dreamers, the creators, those who keep the world of Azeroth expanding by constantly pushing the bounds of known reality so that there may be room for another like-minded soul, dare to deny the possibility of a dark skinned elf with white hair? An idea that is not so far-fetched as the idea of a titanic being whose very whispers can drive even the most mentally sound person to near insanity that is currently inter-twined with the very land you dare lay your head upon.

This.. this "Drow" to the best of my knowledge, is an elf who has been tainted by the dark magics, it's very power eternally altering their appearance, or if of the world of Dragonlance, an elf who has broken a vow within their natural life and must therein spend the rest of their existence trying to fix that wrong. Does this not ring a bell in your head that reminds you of a certain elf society who currently resides just above the dark woods of the Ghostlands?

This was just my take on the closed minds of my fellow dreamers, just wait you cross-over people you, I've only just gotten started.

85 Orc Mage
10160
This.. this "Drow" to the best of my knowledge, is an elf who has been tainted by the dark magics, it's very power eternally altering their appearance, or if of the world of Dragonlance, an elf who has broken a vow within their natural life and must therein spend the rest of their existence trying to fix that wrong. Does this not ring a bell in your head that reminds you of a certain elf society who currently resides just above the dark woods of the Ghostlands?


There is a difference, however, between RPing a Drow, an elf with coal black skin, glowing eyes that tend to be lavender, red, or purple, are almost forced to live underground because the sun is able to blind them, can see in infrared, if I recall... I'm missing a few but you get the basics, versus RPing a Blood Elf with a personality similar to the Drow.

Blood Elves are WoW's version of the Drow, to an extent. Which means it's okay to play a Blood Elf who is underhanded, backstabbing, ready to sell out siblings, prone to owning slaves, etc.
80 Blood Elf Death Knight
0
Ignore Skyperion, we all think he's a terrible rper and you should too.

He's unable to tell the difference between writing a book and stapling a few sheets of paper to a book, write down a half baked story and telling your friends that it's another chapter.

A dark skinned elf with white hair is entirely possible, look at Alex to the left. But a Drow, is not.
85 Orc Mage
10160
01/09/2011 5:57 PMPosted by Sorrowrunner
Ignore Skyperion, we all think he's a terrible rper and you should too.

He's unable to tell the difference between writing a book and stapling a few sheets of paper to a book, write down a half baked story and telling your friends that it's another chapter.

A dark skinned elf with white hair is entirely possible, look at Alex to the left. But a Drow, is not.


But that is an uncommon occurrence, and is generally linked to being a walking corpse.
There's "going along with the lore" and "breaking it as much as you can".

This is the latter.

If you want a Drow-like character, go for it. Make someone with a Drow-like personality, that could work. An actual Drow? Not so much. This is not Forgotten Realms. If you want an actual Drow, go play that.
87 Tauren Druid
13550
This.. this "Drow" to the best of my knowledge, is an elf who has been tainted by the dark magics, it's very power eternally altering their appearance, or if of the world of Dragonlance, an elf who has broken a vow within their natural life and must therein spend the rest of their existence trying to fix that wrong. Does this not ring a bell in your head that reminds you of a certain elf society who currently resides just above the dark woods of the Ghostlands?


What manner of BS is this train of thought? O.o

No, dude. No. Seriously, drow do not exist in WoW. And they won't. Why? Because this isn't D&D, this isn't Dragonlance. This is Warcraft, and Chris Metzen likely won't put drow in.

After all, Warcraft orcs aren't the pure-evil bastards you see in D&D.

his.. this "Drow" to the best of my knowledge, is an elf who has been tainted by the dark magics, it's very power eternally altering their appearance...


Fel elf lolololol. Dude, they've already been named. And you're a crappy roleplayer if you RP one that's accepted by their peers. Fel elves are one step above Wretched.
85 Human Hunter
4160
Skyperion's Post


No.
There's a difference between a Drow, and a Drow-like personality. It also doesn't help that the first Drow character most people think of is Drizzt Do'Urden, who is either universally loved as TeH mOsT aWeSuM eLf EVAR~ or universally despised as an overwrought, overdramatic Mary Sue. (It all depends on who you talk to.) Most people associate Drow with the Forgotten Realms/Dungeons and Dragons type of Drow, black skinned and white haired elves who dwell underground in a sadistic matriarchal society and worshippers of Lolth, the spider goddess. And these are D&D elves, to boot. Short, willowy, poncy, and with sanely-sized pointed ears. Not a dark skinned night elf or a black-skinned deathknight with white hair.

Drow, as the term goes, do not exist in WoW. Not even Eberron's Drow; taller, brown-skinned and not-evil worshippers of scorpions from Xen'Drik.

Those "elves that live in the dark woods north of the Ghostlands"? They have a name. They're called Blood Elves. That's the name they're given. They're not secretly Drow all wearing whiteface and wigs. If they were Drow, they sure as hell wouldn't be following a male leader like Anasterian, Kael'thas, or even Lor'Themar, and they wouldn't go around in a city that's eternally springtime and sunny. There's a reason why Drow live in the Underdark, and it's not just because it's conveniently located underground.

That's not to say you can't be "Drow-like". You don't even need to be an elf to be a cruel, sadistic, backstabbing, poison-brewing, spider-loving vicious motherfather. The point of roleplaying in World of Warcraft is to play within boundaries. Coloring in the lines, if you will. Exercising restraint and creativity within a boundary is a grand display of responsibility, self control, and creativity. You're given rules, you play with them. You don't show up to a football game and expect to play baseball, do you?
60 Blood Elf Warlock
10140
Go ahead and roleplay a Drow in the game. I am sure you will find a handful of people who will agree that all of us "lore hounds" are being close-minded. Then you and your handful of followers can roleplay amongst yourselves, and break all the lore you want. Just don't expect to be able to roleplay with anyone outside of your little circle.
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