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I wanted to ask the community if any guild or group was ICLY currently using Stonewatch Keep in Redridge for a base or RP activities. The Watch has been working on getting rid of the orcs and gnolls that make the countryside hazardous for farmers, merchants, and travelers, and we were thinking of cleaning up Stonewatch (as much as possible given the unchanging nature of the game itself) and using it as a local base for the Watch and others who might want to RP there. Part of the idea is related to wanting to have more places to RP outside of Stormwind. It's a change of scenery, yet not so far away that the distance would discourage people from traveling there.

Of course if someone has already claimed the place, we won't develop the idea any further.
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Jean uses it as his super sekrit harem/brothel full of Blood Elves and Draenei.

The Watch can use it, of course, provided they wear skimpy versions of their guard outfits. (Especially Wanky)

Yes, even the men.

In all seriousness, sounds like a good idea, and I haven't heard of anyone using the place - and even if they do, it's likely only a 'standin' for whatever they're ICly using.

As a player whose character inhabits Redridge, I'd love to see more folks out there RPing. Come out to the burbs!

I'm of the opinion you can't "claim" ingame locations--there's just not enough nifty houses, castles, meeting halls, mage towers, Argent towns, etc, fitted out for RP to go around.

That said, I don't think anyone else uses it. I'm with Genevra--welcome to the neighborhood!

Lahkin said what I meant to say, but better and less sarcastically!

So I'd say go for it, too.

But seriously, I'll trade you Oskor for Wanky.

Isn't that area destroyed during the Redridge main quest line? It's been a while since I've done it, but I thought a rather large explosive was set off.

Nope, that's to the southwest. I forget what happens at Stonewatch, but I'm half concinved that the fort is almost forgotten.

EDIT: Southeast. I get my cardinal directions confused sometimes.

Orwyn, I'd do it. No one else is making use of it that I know of. Pia nd Rt use Hearthglen, Conclave uses Northshire Abbey, Genevra uses Lakeshire, Crimson Blades use Westbrook, etc.

Most people who bump into use in Hearthglen think it's cool people are roleplaying there. We used to catch some flak occasionally at Westbrook when we shared that with Crimson Blades, but that's easy enough to handle most of the time.

It's never a bad idea to spread roleplay out.

My character owns a shanty of questionable integrity in Deadwind Pass, you should come RP with me. <3

My character owns a shanty of questionable integrity in Deadwind Pass, you should come RP with me. <3

From the sound of it, you probably don't really want the Watch to come RP with you.
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Well then! This Friday (the 27th) at 5pm server, we're going to be doing a little RP out at Stonewatch, and anyone who is interested in joining us to help reclaim that area of Redridge for civilization is more than welcome.

Does this -include- members of the Horde?

If folks will be flagged when they're hanging out in the Keep I can add it to my circuit of "small Alliance targets near Stormwind to periodically harass" -- always more fun to fight other roleplayers rather than just NPCs and guards.

If it's mostly going to be used for quiet chat and Horde interruptions wouldn't be appreciated, that's fine too. I just know I'm out in that area poking WorldDefense reasonably regularly, and I never mind some more adversaries!

If folks will be flagged when they're hanging out in the Keep I can add it to my circuit of "small Alliance targets near Stormwind to periodically harass" -- always more fun to fight other roleplayers rather than just NPCs and guards.

If it's mostly going to be used for quiet chat and Horde interruptions wouldn't be appreciated, that's fine too. I just know I'm out in that area poking WorldDefense reasonably regularly, and I never mind some more adversaries!

Fight me. <3

I'm of the opinion you can't "claim" ingame locations--there's just not enough nifty houses, castles, meeting halls, mage towers, Argent towns, etc, fitted out for RP to go around.

That said, I don't think anyone else uses it. I'm with Genevra--welcome to the neighborhood!

No one can really "claim" anything objectively in the game in terms of geography, but we can operate with a general RPers' understanding that "This is where <insert group here> is headquartered." If a non-RPer is in the area, we obviously can't kick 'em out; if an RPer is in the area, one would hope they're respectful of an existing RP claim. Most of the time they are, unless they're one of our "fringe" RP guilds who aren't actively involved in inter-guild stories.

Cyrus and Lluchduu Ocheliad have claimed much of the land between the Scarlet Enclave and Corrin's Crossing, for example. They aren't going to get upset if someone's in the area, but if an RPer who's part of the regular inter-guild stuff shows up, it gives them a chance to make an RP claim and discourage further incursion.

I know I've claimed the immediate area around Light's Hope Chapel for the Ebon Sanction, though not exclusively since it's obviously a bastion of the Argent Crusade. It's where the Sanction has its "offices" for non-Death Knights, who story-wise wouldn't be allowed into Acherus to begin with. In terms of RP, our Death Knights operate out of the Ebon Hold above, though we obviously don't have exclusive claim on it.

That's how I see these sorts of things, at least.

Orwyn, I was possibly thinking about using Stonewatch as a guild base for Gambit, being that it's empty and all, but we have plenty of other places we can use. Go ahead! :3

If folks will be flagged when they're hanging out in the Keep I can add it to my circuit of "small Alliance targets near Stormwind to periodically harass" -- always more fun to fight other roleplayers rather than just NPCs and guards.

If it's mostly going to be used for quiet chat and Horde interruptions wouldn't be appreciated, that's fine too. I just know I'm out in that area poking WorldDefense reasonably regularly, and I never mind some more adversaries!

I'm perma-flagged as are several Pia members. contrary to popular belief, I don't mind being hit. I'm just thrilled to have you back. Now, convince some of those other horde members to return! Track Souleater down!

if an RPer is in the area, one would hope they're respectful of an existing RP claim.

Umm, yep.

07/26/2012 11:46 AMPosted by Tyrynna

Orwyn, I was possibly thinking about using Stonewatch as a guild base for Gambit, being that it's empty and all, but we have plenty of other places we can use. Go ahead! :3

Well, the place is pretty large, and I didn't have any intention of "claiming" it only for the Watch. Generally I assume any location in the game represents something larger with other buildings. So I don't think it's a big deal.

My thoughts for the Watch using the place was that for our recent RP we've been killing orcs and gnolls to make Redridge more habitable, and Stonewatch was a good staging location/base for that. I figured while we were out there, it'd be more fun to invite other people to play along who might enjoy bringing a semblance of civilization back to the area. So if others want to camp out there, or "move" out there, or trade, or whatever, while the Watch protected the area and did our thing killing the bad monsters, it could be entertaining. As I often do, I'm making it up as I go, so any ideas others want to contribute are welcome.

The problem with that, Rage, is when it comes to houses or bases that people have actually changed from what you see ingame.

For example, if a 'house' ingame was the actual house a person was using, and not just a stand-in for a location that exists in lore but not ingame due to a far smaller game world than the actual lore suggests, then poor Dernes' house gets used by like, fifty different people.

I'm sorta of the same mindset with bases, too. While it can be cool to -share- an area, it sorta seems silly to have 'Ahh, here's our new abandoned keep, time to set up base -' 'OMG THIS IS OUR BASE GET OUT GET OUT FOREVER'.

I'dunno, it just seems prone to turning into 'no, this is MY area'. Without a lot of OOC communication (which, between Horde and Alliance players, can be difficult), it just seems hard to set up properly. You run into too many pre-existing beliefs conflicting with what you're being told, ICly.

As an example, Fenris Keep - Worgens of the Night used it ICly, till they were informed that the Forsaken basically ran the Worgen out of it, lorewise. Until they were informed of this, most Horde players were baffled as to why they were using it, as to them, it didn't make sense - of course, Aorune and co had no way to know this, because it's only lore shown to Horde players, through Silverpine.

Then you run into the same problem, but with RPers, if you say you use -the- ingame location, and you don't just use it as a stand-in. Same example, Fenris, I believe that the Modas had been using for some time? So both of them saying they use the very Fenris that exists in-game led to some... comical, silly mental images of them drawing a line through the center of the castle, and fighting over furniture - when, probably, the Worgen of the Night wouldn't have set foot in a Modas keep to begin with had they known. Maybe used the same in-game location as a stand-in, but not -the- same one, if that makes any sense at all.

Edit: Generally my reasoning for this line of thinking can be seen perfectly in Stormwind. It's supposed to house millions of people! ...Barely enough houses for all the RPers -we- have in it.

Also, Aro and Ra may set up a tea party out there and watch the Alliance fight, as the savage Horde is often known to do.