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Ill go a step further and remind everyone that Druids do not answer to Darnassus, and Fandral never had darnassian power.

The Cenarion Enclave is a political embassy and thus a 4th of darnassus isnt actually Darnassian

Malfurion is an Arch Druid. Perhaps it wasn't meant to be implied that he was the true definition of a Co-Leader, but more that his cultural significance (as druids are significant to Night Elven culture) gives him sway over his people. Remind yourselves that Tyrande is a High Priestess, not a Queen. I'm no expert on NE lore, but as NPCs often quote similarly, Elune guides their path. Tyrande speaks the word of Elune. Malfurion has a more natural connection. Those two things are paramount, I'd think, in their culture.

04/03/2014 03:02 PMPosted by Alicia

Asked several times on twitter and other places, and still no answer.

What's the story with the Blood Knight Tabard / Order?

Liadrin is not wearing it in the Quel'delar Quest. She is wearing the Shattered Sun Tabard. Is she still Matriarch? Do the Blood Knights even exist at this point or are they something else now?

What is currently the official Blood Knight Tabard?

Traditional black and red? Or the SSO Tabard? Some info would really help.

Thanks guys. :)

As of MoP, the Blood Knight tabard is still in use.

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=68384#screenshots

Also, I'm fairly certain that the Shattered Sun is now a non-thing. Liadrin, however, is apparently still the Matriarch of the Blood Knights, and she's supposed to be involved in WoD to some extent.

04/03/2014 02:55 PMPosted by Seebach

04/03/2014 02:53 PMPosted by Ferliona

No disrespect meant, nut you folks should clarify that Tyrande Malfurion question.

Their Union has nothing to do with him leading. Stormrage specifically said Malfurion only leads because Tyrande forced him to.

That implies they ate not equals

Stop reading into it and enjoy that they are equal partners, whether it is by his choice to be or not.

Why enjoy the fact that Blizzard continues to marginalize the only long standing female leader in the sereies by making it better to have a man involved? Much less one whos known and acknowledged to not care abouther thoughts

Wait, do people think this is a place to get questions answered?

04/03/2014 03:17 PMPosted by Ferliona

Why enjoy the fact that Blizzard continues to marginalize the only long standing female leader in the sereies by making it better to have a man involved? Much less one whos known and acknowledged to not care abouther thoughts

Is it marginalizing when she's the one that wants it?

I mean, story writer or not, it sounds like it is written that Tyrande wants Malfurion to reconnect with the Elves, and she'll do it in anyway to make it happen.

When they write it as her needing him, yes.

04/03/2014 03:25 PMPosted by Ferliona

When they write it as her needing him, yes.

Well she apparently needs him, whether that is physically, mentally, love, or what have you, it seems to be the case.

04/03/2014 01:45 PMPosted by Forbidra

Awesome stuff, but disappointed in the lack of any new Gnome stuff, particularly very basic lore questions that have never been explained, like...

1. How were the Gnomes able to live in Khaz Modan for centuries without being discovered by the Dwarves until fairly recently? One would think their incessant experimentation would attract attention.

2. When exactly was Gnomeregan built, how large is it, and how many Gnomes lived there prior to The Fall? We know the city had at *least* 17 "Sectors", and that the Gnomes of today represent a mere 20% of those that lived prior to The Fall.

3. High Tinker Gelbin Mekkatorque is the only known High Tinker, yet Gnomes have been electing their leaders for hundreds of years. Who were the previous leaders of the Gnomes, and how have they left their mark on the history of Azeroth?

4. What caused Thermaplugg to go off the deep end in a way that is so uncharacteristic of Gnomes? Was he really so power hungry that losing out on the top job to Gelbin Mekkatorque unhinged him to the point that murdering countless gnomes, women and children seemed to him like a logical way to get promoted?? Or was he corrupted by an as yet unknown force?

5. What caused the Mighty Millhouse Manastorm to be imprisoned in the Arcatraz? Is he truly evil, or was he (like his "Stir Crazy" quoted counterpart) framed for a crime he didnt commit? Why was he seen fraternizing in Cata with the Twilight's Hammer cultists? Could he have been infiltrating their ranks for another reason? And is he really dead, or might his mage ability to Slow Fall have saved him?

6. We know that in "Times past, all warlocks in Khaz Modan were trained under the auspices of the masters of Gnomeregan"* This strongly implies that the Dwarves learned the Fel magical arts and sciences from the Gnomes. But where did the Gnomes learn Warlockery from, since this would appear to pre-date their admittance into the Alliance?
*http://www.wowhead.com/quest=1715/the-slaughtered-lamb

These and other questions inquiring Gnomes want to know!

- Forbs
"For Gnomeregan!"

Excellent questions. I've got some more I'd like to know.

1. What compelled the gnomes to join the siege of Orgrimmar? There was no big explanation why Mekketourque and his gnomes joined Varian and the others in the siege. Where we had scenarios explaining Moira, Tyrande, and Jaina pledging their forces to Varian's leadership. Why did the gnomes just pop out of nowhere?

2. When gnome priests were introduced. We never got huge lore development on what made them decide to become priests. Medics, doctors, and surgeons are huge in Gnomish society. But what lore do we have with them? Are they light believers? Or simply using the light to a means of research? What is their overall reason to be priests?

3. We've yet to explore gnomes with other values outside of Gnomeregan. Outside of the Gnome post in Northrend. We got an idea of their background. However why don't we get much development on them? Why not have Horde respect the gnome intellect? I'd like to explore why the gnomes even fight the Horde too.

4. We don't really explore gnome relations with the other races outside of Dwarves and Night elves. I thought draenei and gnomes would be the best of friends with technology and what not. Would there be any reason we didn't get more draenei and gnome encounters?

5. Would we ever manage to get a character simillar to Sunwalker Dezco in light of development for gnome priests? I thought Dezco made an awesome pinnacle for Tauren paladins and Sunwalker faith. Gnomes could use something like this to reflect their abilities with healing, or faith.

For the Tyrande/Malfurion thing, Tyrande is the leader of the priests/sentinels (approximately half the population) and malfurion is leader of the druids (approximately the other half of the population). If the druids all stayed in the emerald dream it would make sense for them to have separate leadership roles as they are effectively leading people in two different places. But with current events I don't think many of the druids are sleeping so most of the population is in the waking world meaning it would make sense for Tyrande and Malfurion to be co-leaders since the two half populations are now one larger population.

04/03/2014 11:43 AMPosted by Nethaera

I'm afraid not. (Imagine that dinner conversation!) Darnassus is officially co-ruled by Malfurion and Tyrande, united with each other and with their people. A key thing to keep in mind is how their union allows them to work in tandem. These two leaders are focused on different aspects of governing their people, and this new method of governance truly suits them and the kaldorei nation as a whole.

This answer bothers me a great deal, but with all the other disappointing CDev answers about the Kal'dorei, and Tyrande's embarrassingly incompetent portrayals in game, I can't say I'm surprised to hear that Tyrande is being backseated by Malfurion.

Stop reading into it and enjoy that they are equal partners, whether it is by his choice to be or not.

Why should I enjoy that? Why does Turkey-Face get to be equal with Tyrande? She led her people for thousands of years just fine while Fuzzywuzzy was taking a nap.

I'll leave aside the gender issues momentarily (congratulations Blizzard, your only female faction leader who doesn't rule in partnership with males is an undead stripper!) and just focus on this.

Malfurion is just awful. He has an awful design. Dude won't even go into bear form to tank the Horde when they come and kill his wife. He was quest giver in an awful zone full of orange. And while Well of Eternity was a pretty cool instance, I still haven't forgiven him for telling Tyrande to hush up after she had almost single-handedly fought off the entire Burning Legion. He's like Cyclops in the X-Men. Marvel wants him to be some great leader, but he's just awful too. And like Malfurion, despite being awful he keeps getting the interest of women who should be way out of his league.

Joking aside, I think Blizzard doesn't quite get that a lot of people just hate Malfurion.

04/03/2014 04:01 PMPosted by Bomdanil

04/03/2014 11:43 AMPosted by Nethaera

I'm afraid not. (Imagine that dinner conversation!) Darnassus is officially co-ruled by Malfurion and Tyrande, united with each other and with their people. A key thing to keep in mind is how their union allows them to work in tandem. These two leaders are focused on different aspects of governing their people, and this new method of governance truly suits them and the kaldorei nation as a whole.

This answer bothers me a great deal, but with all the other disappointing CDev answers about the Kal'dorei, and Tyrande's embarrassingly incompetent portrayals in game, I can't say I'm surprised to hear that Tyrande is being backseated by Malfurion.

I didn't realize co-ruling = backseat. Honestly it makes sense to me, as the person above you mentioned Malfurion/the druids are all awake now, and Malfurion is the leader of the druids. In addition to that, Tyrande was already characterized as being a sort of duo with Malf as far back as WC3. That being said however, I would like to see some display of them sort of performing separate duties in the future more <3.

My guess is that Tyrande takes command in most military/outbound activities, since we see her at the Siege and such without any sign of Malf. From my point of view, Malfurion is probably taking over Fandral's homesitting/druid management job, so it's not really much of a role change for Tyrande outside of the fact that she/Malfurion actually get along/cooperate more than her/Fandral.

Edit: I think most people dislike Malfurion because of his/Tyrande's poor characterization in the Cata dungeon, and the fact that he has a more neutral/passive presence. I'm hoping in the future that Blizzard can bring in some more dynamic to them without having that flop.

04/03/2014 03:21 PMPosted by Seebach

I mean, story writer or not, it sounds like it is written that Tyrande wants Malfurion to reconnect with the Elves, and she'll do it in anyway to make it happen.

I want Tyrande to be written as an interesting character again, and for Malfie the Pooh to go back into hibernation for a few more millenia.

04/03/2014 03:56 PMPosted by Farora

For the Tyrande/Malfurion thing, Tyrande is the leader of the priests/sentinels (approximately half the population) and malfurion is leader of the druids (approximately the other half of the population). If the druids all stayed in the emerald dream it would make sense for them to have separate leadership roles as they are effectively leading people in two different places. But with current events I don't think many of the druids are sleeping so most of the population is in the waking world meaning it would make sense for Tyrande and Malfurion to be co-leaders since the two half populations are now one larger population.

Was Fandral portrayed as Tyrande's equal while ChickenWings was missing? He was a jerk who tried to undermine her, but he still technically was under her control. And if the druids are awake and integrated into Night Elf Society, it makes even more sense for there to be one definitive leader, and for that person to not be someone who slept through the past 10,000 years.

04/03/2014 11:43 AMPosted by Nethaera

As for the Highborne, these elves now must reap the consequences of their actions. Their crimes—during the War of the Ancients and their subsequent refusal to cease using arcane magic—cannot be atoned for overnight. Despite the fact that official talks to accept them back into the fold are under way, the co-leaders of the kaldorei expect many years to pass before the Highborne are truly assimilated into society.

I found this interesting. If I'm reading this correctly this means that the Highborne are not yet a part of Night Elven society though there is an effort to integrate them.

Again, Fandral had zero authority outside of druids.

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Stop reading into it and enjoy that they are equal partners, whether it is by his choice to be or not.

Why enjoy the fact that Blizzard continues to marginalize the only long standing female leader in the sereies by making it better to have a man involved? Much less one whos known and acknowledged to not care abouther thoughts

Sylvanas is not a female!? Everything I ever knew is a lie! D:

04/03/2014 04:16 PMPosted by Ferliona

Again, Fandral had zero authority outside of druids.

Sure. But running Night Elf Society was just too much for a li'l gal like Tyrande, so she needed her man to help her out.

04/03/2014 03:56 PMPosted by Farora

For the Tyrande/Malfurion thing, Tyrande is the leader of the priests/sentinels (approximately half the population) and malfurion is leader of the druids (approximately the other half of the population). If the druids all stayed in the emerald dream it would make sense for them to have separate leadership roles as they are effectively leading people in two different places. But with current events I don't think many of the druids are sleeping so most of the population is in the waking world meaning it would make sense for Tyrande and Malfurion to be co-leaders since the two half populations are now one larger population.

No.

Druids are a small percentage.